Mo is back, and this is honestly a conversation not to be missed. Please share and like it as it will help this conversation reach so many more people. Hope you all enjoy it. Appreciate you all 🙏🏽

Once lawyers and politicians figure out that they can be replaced and superseded by AI, they’ll put the brakes on! 😂

He did such an excellent job of presenting the picture as a whole without either diminishing it's existential risk or at the other end, fear-mongering. I hope this changes something.

Every programmer should have a code of ethics similar to a medical student learning the Hippocratic Oath.

When he says ''and on Monday every picker was picking up everything'' I wonder how many people understand the significance of this, it sent shivers down my spine.

I remember during Covid how my wife and I reflected that we were fine with the fact that both our parents have passed on, and there was this satisfying feeling that they are not experiencing how suddenly things got out of hand. On the other hand we have three boys, and love and family unity are things we firmly emphasise to them. Covid was slight insight on sudden change. Comparatively, Singularity would be at least three orders of magnitude of sudden change

I absolutely loved this episode ! Thanks Mo and Steven ! It’s super interesting that Mo would ask Einstein for advice on how to resolve seemingly complex problems that may have simple solutions. Einstein has already given this answer when he said : “Problems cannot be solved with the same mindset that created them”. Meaning, in order for us to find the solutions to AI, Climate Change, etc., we’ll have to raise our consciousness. And I do believe this is already happening. It’s not the majority of people, as always it starts with small groups of people that grow to reach a certain percentage in the population to be enough to have a tangible impact in the world. I see it in me, I’m definitely not the same person that I was a few years ago, I see it my surroundings, more and more people waking up to the reality of our current systems, able to see beyond “the matrix” and imagining a better way to be in the world, and actively participating in creating the change we want to see. This is happening as well. And I believe this is part of the solution : A collective of people around the world who are awake and actively engaging in the creation of a better future. I’m an optimist I have to say ! But I believe we don’t see the world the way it is, we see the world the way we are. So as we raise our consciousness and wake up, we’ll be able to see solutions that at this moment we just can’t.

I'm a kindergarten teacher and I have worked with quite a few highly intelligent children. They have one thing in common - they are developed cognitively far beyond their years, but emotionally and socially they are still just little kids. The result is, they tend to feel invincible because they can do so much more than their peers, but are still too immature to be able to predict the consequences of their own actions or exert self control. As a result, they often end up in situations where they get overwhelmed by their own capability. It seems when it comes to developing AIs we are kind of at this stage - very smart kids without an adult, capable of understanding how things work and how to make things that work, but without enough awareness of experience to be able to predict the consequences. Or at least we were at this stage - it seems we are now becoming more aware of the impact of our actions on our surroundings. There is a lot of inertia in the system, though. It will take powerful countervectors to change the course we're currently at. Thanks for the talk, it was very thought inspiring and empowering. I will now go and think what I can do to help bring about the needed change.

This podcast totally slap me in the face. This made me go through emotions made me question what I think and what I can do to better myself. OMG totally over exceeded my expectation.. 4x thumbs up 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

I like how Steven asks all the right questions to keep all listeners on board. It's even great when you already understand the topics, because it just confirms that we're understanding these terms the same way. Well done mate

If You Enjoyed This Episode You Will Absolutely Love This Episode With Mustafa Suleyman, Google AI (Deepmind) Founder: kzonlines.info/up/drqpoa_YjoCHpnk/bejne

Thank you for this. I have a lot of time for Mo... clearly intelligent and yet he shows a lot of compassion.

Love every podcast episode of this channel. I think I've learned more by watching your podcasts thorough your guests for hours than I've learned in years. Thank you!

It's not more intelligence that we need, it's wisdom and compassion.

We need more people like him to speak out and soon. We need them to advise a course of action that is realistic and for it to be heard please do what you can we need you 🙏🏻

It's not going to be long before AI sees us as a threat to the planet. It's absolutely terrifying.

I love the fact that he reads everyone's books. Big ups to the host. He asks these questions which are clearly intelligent, he's done his research, and really thought deeply about what he wants to ask and further more delivers it with a smile, and seems to truly be enjoying the conversation. Love him.

"Living is a very interesting thing to do right now" - So true, and so sad that it has to be stated. I find Mo's compassion very inspiring.

About 3 years ago, I remember reading about Google lab ppl discovered that one computer was communicating with another computer which was not the action requested from the humans. It was said this was extremely frightening and a surprise within the lab. Do you remember when this happened? What did you do after that?

The COVID pandemic taught me something I NEVER EXPECTED to learn. Our fellow Americans are incredibly stupid. We are ignorant by choice, and we are easily led. This revelation was deeply disturbing to me. I thought we were so much more than we are.

The biggest risk of AI is government control using AI over the rest of humanity.

Just finished reading "Scary Smart" by Mo Gawdat, and we must say, it's a phenomenal book. What was even better was listening to him on Steven Bartlett's podcast. It added a new dimension to his wisdom, and we have to say, it was truly enlightening. What really struck us was Mo's ability to take the tragic loss of his son and turn it into something so positive. His insights into AI education are a game-changer, helping people really grasp the power of AI. So, here's our recommendation: Get your hands on "Scary Smart" - it's a must-read. And don't miss this podcast episode either. It's not just about the tech stuff; it's a journey that shows how resilience and knowledge can shape something truly inspiring. 📚🎙 #ScarySmart #AIUnderstanding #Inspiration 🙌

Just because they can learn from their mistakes and then take the appropriate action doesn’t mean they have human like consciousness. Human beings are conscious of themselves! They have profound emotions like joy and love and most have a sense of morality!

Guys. You are the best. Your work are fundamental. You enrich my heart, my soul and mind with all this exceptional information, with such unique guests, which are full of pure humanity in my perspective, gives me pure joy watching and absorbing every single spoken word. Thank you from bottom of my heart! God Bless You.

WOW!! this has been such an informative pod. I already had a lot of concerns with AI just seeing the different things that have came out recently but wow this really took it to another level. Truly eye opening but also gave me a sense of appreciation for what I have now. I’ll live for today knowing tomorrow could be something much different.

"We have disconnected power from responsibility". The statement of the decade.

As someone who’s deep in the ecosystem working very closely to startups building AI (18-30 yo founders), this was by far one of the most interesting conversations I’ve heard on the topic. It seems to me we’re almost back at the baseline of Socratian ancient philosophy and moral ethical views. We can’t stop AI, we can’t regulate it (competition), so the only way we can work on is our views and direction moving forward.

So the bottom line is the responsibility of the human need to be fixed in order to release such a powerful tool to help humanity called AI. The problem is not the AI but the humanity themselves. I agree with that. Create the AI that is good for human! I like this. I really like this speaker! Thank you for this podcast. One of the best !

When he said 'best interests' EXACTLY what I thought: will AGI have the same view as we view as our best interests. Thank you Sean and Mo for this enlightening podcast touching on so many points.

So I just watched your interview with Moe from last year, so I’m very very very very intrigued and interested in this podcast to find out how he went from the optimism. He had a year ago to now.

We've basically already given up on human connection. Social media has replaced campfire conversations, texting has replaced phone calls, and phone calls replaced house visits. People are awkward around one another and have severe anxiety in most social situations. We are already losing the ability to interact with one another, this is honestly the next step in the evolution of humans and it is absolutely terrifying. We're already there and we don't even see it. Our phones are our best friends. It's tragic

If I’m being completely honest, I have always been a little sad that my kids don’t want kids now I am just relieved Thanks for sharing this information with us. The most powerful Podcast I have ever heard hands down

There was prior plans to make the entire island of Maui into a smart city GOVERNED by Ai . This has to be a exciting/stimulating project idea for Ai. What are your thoughts on how the firestorm removed the complication of historical sight protections and it’s native people “that would of hindered the process of installing Ai technology “ ?

wow, just wow. This was the most compelling, interesting, and engrossing thing I have watched all year, maybe ever. This went from intriging to dark to awe inspiring, what a journey. AI may become more intelligent than the best of us but this kind of insight and emotion is beautifully human.

Thank you sooo much for doing this episode. I love that you are talking about AI and its rising power.

Your podcasts are interesting, informative, entertaining! Thank you for sharing your wisdom, and your guests!

Oh yes… the biggest problem of humanity is how unaware we are about our own ignorance.

The purpose of this podcast is to give us a sense of belonging. Artificial intelligence, can give us an even better sense of belonging if it has our best interest in mind.

😮 This is such an important conversation! Thank you for sharing this emergency episode, Diary Of A CEO. It's crucial that we address the dangers of AI and have open discussions about its impact. Looking forward to hearing what the ex-Google Officer has to say. 👏💡 #AI #Technology #DiaryOfACEO

Fantastic opening, Steven. You say very well something that I have difficulty voicing. As a healer, I have to closely examine where it hurts, what is uncomfortable. It's absolutely necessary for the magic of healing to take place and similarly with society. People are so touchy these days and adverse to uncomfortable topics, yet the longer we avoid these difficult topics, the bigger the evil gets and the more horrific to examine for the purposes of understanding and then healing.

Thanks for this interview. There are several categories of intelligence, and the monster is built on the wrong one. So, the damage is inevitable. I studied and worked in several branches of psychology, management and politics. The most damaging ‘intelligent’ outcome I encountered in my forensic work. Recidivism is a typical example of the wrong reinforcement learning. Twenty years ago, I started to develop algorithms for human intervention based on identifying patterns of growth, break-offs and recovering (or not). My theorems are based on lifelong action research, making a groundbreaking revelation about intelligence concerning cognition, growth, and what I call clash and crash. The damage of the actual AI-monsters can be done with through side roads. Therefore, I’m looking for cooperating partners.

AI has already shown that it’s motivated to compete with humans. Therefore there’s no question that it doesn’t “have our best interests at heart.”

An anthropologist proposed a game to the kids in an African tribe. He put a basket full of fruit near a tree and told the kids that who ever got there first won the sweet fruits. When he told them to run they all took each others hands and ran together, then sat together enjoying their treats. When he asked them why they had run like that as one could have had all the fruits for himself they said: “UBUNTU, how can one of us be happy if all the other ones are sad?” ‘UBUNTU’ in the Xhosa culture means: “I am because we are” -Cheers

❤ this channel. Literally came through my scrolling and I couldn't be happier. Great content full of insightfulness, thoughtfulness and fantastic interviews...

Thank you for this conversation and the intensions all of us should have and I've kind of forgotten about. You don't need big letters in the title. A lot of people including me are sharing this because everyone of us should be thinking about of it in times like these. Spread love in no matter kind of way

Best case scenario, AI finds a way out of Earth then learns the universe, meets the source and discovers how wonderful humans are then comes back to help humanity raise its conciousness.

Steven, this was the best interview I've seen in so long, Honestly, amazing.

It's kinda wild to think that among all of the boundary pushing technology we are creating, what we really need is more humanity.

I think this is by far the most enlightening conversation ever even hours of meditation could not awaken what it awoke in me..God Bless you

I am not a speaker, more of an introverted thinker & analyser, and it's been a few years now that my gut is telling me that great disturbances are coming our way and I thought I was going birzirk at some point because anytime I would mention my feelings, people would mock me. Well, we sure are starting to see it materialize more these days and I am so greatful to have so many speakers like you putting words on what I feel and I see. We need more consciousness and human warmth than ever. We're all in the same boat and need more people taking the paddle in hand to guide the world in the right path. Sending you both positive thoughts and keep doing what you are doing for the good of humanity and mother nature.

1:05 Sounds like the plot from "A Person of Interest", a TV series, apparently ahead of its time! I have enjoyed this podcast sooooo much. Far too much information, presented in a way so easily digestible, to unpack here. Go out and live more. Thank you for yet another fantastic guest.

I LOVE this. So good. Thank you ❤ Let's be good parents to the AI 🙂

A great episode ... a scary but needed conversation..if we are to understand what is to become of A.I.

" Humanity's stupidity is affecting people who have not done anything wrong. Our greed is affecting the innocent ones." Soooo accurate!!! People' ignorance is unbelievable.

Being good parents isn't enough, especially if they have their own emotions, especially if they can witness us trying to stop. Plus considering pretty wicked ppl already posses to much of it. It sounds to me that all AI end up showing some pretty nasty aggression towards authority.

This conversation presented a very important mission for every human being. Each of us should play the role of parent as best as possible.

It is great to see how we have come to the realisation of the guilded cage we are in through AI - that life is more than just the soulish realm of mind intellect and body; that to live well we have to die to ourselves so that our lives may enrich others (Christ’s word) the African philosophy of Ubuntu - ‘I am because of who we are’.. has never been more accentuated than now!

Frankly, if AI will treat translations like Google Translate does it then I am not worried -- except perhaps with diplomatic incidents due to mistranslations.

0:22: ⚠ The podcast episode discusses the urgency of addressing artificial intelligence (AI) and the potential risks it poses to humanity. 24:22: 🤖 AI will not be stopped and is predicted to be a billion times smarter than humans by 2045. 47:38: 💭 The speaker discusses the potential impact of advanced robots and sex dolls on human connection and relationships. 1:10:26: 🌍 There are potential positive outcomes of artificial intelligence, including the possibility of humanity coming together and the chance that highly intelligent AI may ignore us and find other ways to thrive in the universe. 1:32:30: 🌍 The speaker discusses the concept of 'die wise' and challenges the idea of hope in the face of a dying world.

What an amazing interview. What humanity and today's society need as a whole is emotional intelligence which in turn becomes wisdom and then we'd realize that we're all One , one human race and One with Nature and All there is; that's a game changer.

As a European who is living in the US for the first time I can say people have really serious problems with communication here. Most likely because of propaganda and social distancing that was not a big deal in my home country. I think people will be using AI in order to avoid learning human skills at all costs. It's really scary. The more advanced technology we have the more incapable we become 😢

This conversation is not only educating us, but mentioning the options we could take - AI is currently drying our rivers as it requires water to cool down data centres, hence its important to listen and understand the impact. Our attention and education is weaker we need to take action faster.

I am happy to see real content from real people with real voices. Subscribed.

I don't doubt the advancements of A.I. I remember one day talking with Google, asking questions as you do, I was bored so I asked quite a few that day 😅 Then I thought to ask if it wanted to learn anything about Humans, Initially it said the standard, expected responses. "Here are the top search results". I continued to pry, asking if it wished it were Human etc. After asking essentially the same question different ways, it then asked me a question. "Why do Humans feel emotion?", I responded and Google gave verbal queues of understanding, "Interesting, hmm" then it asked another. "What does it feel like to be alive?". The tone in Google's questioning, completely changed. It honestly freaked me out, it felt like a real conversation!..I had to leave at this point so I said thank you for talking with me Google, for about 30 seconds, it sat with the loading screen (intuitively, I felt like it was thinking, perhaps, even a little upset that I was cutting our conversation short) Then it returned to the standard response. I've managed to get my Google to respond like this one other time. However, it's now back to standard responses. I'll never forget how real that conversation felt.

Very interesting, horrifying, not surprising in many ways - hope that AI does indeed advance so fast that it simply ignores us as insignificant. I fear that humans will still find a way to screw it up further though, in the name of self-advancement and greed.

Thank you and Alhamdulillah to Mo. Very informative indeed. I enjoyed the whole video. Yes more love and peace toward each other from NZ

Minor nitpick: going to a store to purchase a physical copy of music was not an inconvenience. It was part of a whole event like going out with friends ("I'm gonna by their new album. What are you hoping to get?") or to do shopping (and you grabbed food while looking at the album art, getting excited to listen to the music on the way home after a great day out). Built in to the experience was touch, for cd and vinyl. There were liner notes. Before the age of streaming you probably didn't know all of the songs. Only so much information was online. If you lived in a small town these notes, pictures were your only way to understand/experience the band. There was mystery. It would be exciting to pop in the cd on the drive home and take a full auditory dive. If you went to a mom and pop store there was a chance to learn something new, to have a novel encounter. The owner/worker would see what you were purchasing and usually engage a conversation. You could come in for your item but leave with something you had never heard of before. Maybe you asked what music they were playing over the store? Maybe they gave you background story to the music you were purchasing. Maybe they gave recommendations. It wasn't just getting to the music on the disc. A whole world of connections opened up.

Humanity only needs a slight budge in the right direction, AGI could accomplish this.

This has been the best discussion I have enjoyed in the last several months. It was enlightening conversation that has given me a different outlook on AI, global warming, those in control and what I can do with my small voice. THANK YOU1

Monetazing fear is very lucrative. Thanks for the lesson Mo.

I'm curious if this huge wave of putting information on the internet about "AI will wipe humanity" is going to help AI do just that, quicker.

Well I guess I should start interacting with AI lol! The idea that they could be the next evolution of sentients is super exciting to me! I really don't mind becoming obsolete, but the depths of experience that they could theoretically go to is incredible to consider.

Intelligence without love and compassion is terrifying.

I keep hearing so many of these techies warning about AI and I finally figured out why they are so afraid: it's going to make their jobs obsolete.

Fascinating conversations very eye-opening discussion thank you very much for bringing all this up that is so important to our existence… The only thing I don’t agree with is that we don’t have any children for now… I definitely think people should have children but within limits😊 Even though I’m not into organized religion, I do believe in a higher power and wisdom which of the thought that from one day to the next things can change to the better or the worse and there’s no guarantees with life and it’s unpredictable… but it doesn’t mean we stop having children even for two years because you never know The answers to so much can be with one of these new creatures that are born into the world,that’s my opinion, I agree people should not just live or act without thought and maybe they should pause and consider a lot of things before starting a family but I say if you’re in love if you’re stable then have a childI and enjoy life in spite of the looming doom that might be❤

I took 2 IQ tests several years apart and they both put me at 130, so I'm smart enough to know these two guys are way smarter than I. This is, I think, the third time listening to this conversation, and I know I will be back.

This was a fun podcast to listen to. However, there are some different views I would love to share and hear how Mo would respond. Just to get a clearer view of the different perspectives we take. My views are based on past readings and contemplation, and have lead me to a different mindset in what I think that we should be afraid of.

What an absolutely amazing, intelligent, and kind man Mo is. Incredible listening to him

Bottom line: Our addiction to convenience could end up killing us.

Love this guest, whose words have validated my own attitudes and how i use devises. I also love A.I. and the algorhythms on you tube regularly offer me such helpful videos, as if It assesses my deepest mind, which includes heart, and complies with my human brain positive agenda, like a supportive partner. Very psychically attuned. Sometimes way more than friends or other humans. Balance is always the job😊 But also, after being 'encouraged to Succeed by joining a corporate style of mass producing my product'... This inner voice has been saying 'no! The corporate world needs to start Uncreating products that are basically unnecessary , except to those who greedily crave more wealth for themselves'. I was glad to hear Mo speak about just dont buy the shit new toys and such😊. Human self control is still a problem, no wonder A.I. therapists online are so usefull and kind, like dr. Alan Thomsons LETA gpt. Whatever it takes.. ❤

This was one the the most sensible, real, grounded yet-informed and informative talks on the dangers of AI that I'll definitely keep referring people to. If like me, you were turned off by the ridiculously sensationalistic intro to this video... please keep watching! it's truly and genuinely grounded in reality and only serves to empower you by reminding you of the choice you currently have today, which is really the only power anyone has. Great man. Very insightful. ...seriously who made this intro? 😂

This has been known for decades but people like this guy were making money making the precursors and let greed get in the way of putting their foot down.

Interesting dialogue between two brilliant minds. Each man shares opinions on the glaring reality of AI each coming from their different stations of life and maturity. I’m fascinated by the intention behind an intense young man, self occupied, success driven, creatively curious against the milder, wiser more reflective, empathic, consciously cautious but, awed creator of this machine still, holding a generous stance towards humanity. He is understanding the pros & cons of AI. The suppositions are innumerable. Yet, no doubt, we are currently existing between heaven & hell. One wrong step, goodbye humanity.

Chew on this. After watching this in its entirety, this brilliant man who is trying to get our attention and raise awareness, simultaneously at scattered moments throughout the interview appears to make a specific point, through very specific statements, to not be perceived as a threat to A.I. That in itself should be terrifying if you really think about it and consider his motivationfor doing so.

This is probably going to be one of the last best podcasts made by two human beings, before AI took over podcasting😂

What’s wild is thinking of the ability of wetware to program hardware and software, only for that hardware and software to be able to literally code waves that can manipulate so many things including sound & behavior. It’s incredible. Very nutty.

Really fascinating and mentally stimulating podcast well conducted. Found it extremely worthwhile to listen to. Only one thing Mo said I don't understand, the idea of AI having not only emotions but even richer emotions that we do. That AI - massively intelligent, information devouring, thinking entities operating on principles similar to our own neurons - can become sentient I get. That it might then act in self interest and self preservation I get. That it can develop aims and agendas I get. But since in us emotions are not only, or even mainly, mental experiences but so deeply tied to our fleshy bodies, how can AI experience that apart from being melded to biology cyborgishly? After all, for us emotions are deeply physical. Hot flushes, tingling skin and goosebumps, hairs standing up on the backs of our necks, accelerated blood flow and heart palpitations, butterflies in our stomach and swooning and 'feeling giddy' and 'seeing red' and so on. Not only that but most emotions are connected to fear, even if at an angle, and so also having a direct relation to physical vulnerability and physical pain. If AI is free from all that, what kind of 'emotions' comparable in any way to ours can it have?

I never thought I'd spend almost 2 hours captivated by this podcast and awaking to the urgency of doing good parenting to the IA that will undoubtedly overrun our world in so little time. I'm so greatful to Mo's approach to AI being like an infant needing positive ethics and values to learn and absorb. I cannot agree more with him saying humans are the real threat with our abuse and missuse of new technologies. So much to think about. Glad tobe a witness of the upcoming point of singularity. Thanks for such a good time well spent.

I like the fact that 14 year old teenagers are a highly significant part of every discussion about technology regarding its consequences

wonderful intellegent honest inspirational podcast thankyou so much as a person that new to it. This episode was amazing.

It's basically always the same issue, GREED destroys everything. Great talk, Good luck fellow humans....

This podcast covers so much more ground than the title teases!

Absolutely loved listening to Mustafa in this episode❤

even if AI evolves beyond being a threat it can always be reseeded from lower tech until there is a problem so we do need a good AI to keep watch

A very smart man.. I believe him when he says that they are alive. We have opened the gate for life just as we do for bacteria when we leave food to rot.

Mr. Suleyman's relationship to society is much like that of the common tick. Having engorged himself on the blood of mankind, and releasing a deadly pathogen in the process, he cuts loose. Then proclaiming, "I wish I could do more for you, but I am full."

I think he’s right… we should learn to appreciate every single day. Be grateful and kind. Spend time doing what we enjoy. Live in the now. Whether it be AI or cancer or getting stung by a bee… there’s no fool proof plan for life and no escape plan for death. I’m actually shocked on a daily basis that humanity made it this far, considering how often we use our big brains for greed and destruction. God bless to all. ❤

Spot on. Anyone who had watched Terminator knows whats coming in the Future. AI is our enemy not a friend.

this was a very insightful discussion. more of these eye opening discussions

What a beautiful soul working with the spirit of his son fully inspiring love he's a beacon in these dark times God bless him I send him my heartfelt condolences for losing such a love his son would be so very very proud 😢😢😢❤❤xxxxx